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Is it "Benjamin" or "Binyamin"?
[edit]In the economist article it keeps referring to him as Binyamin Netanyahu so which one is it? "Benjamin" or "Binyamin"? https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2024/09/19/israels-government-is-again-trying-to-hobble-its-supreme-court DataCrusade1999 (talk) 13:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DataCrusade1999 Binyamin is the Hebrew pronunciation and spelling of the name Benjamin which is where the name originates from. Netanyahu is named after the biblical figure Benjamin whose name was spelled as Binyamin. FloridaMan21 02:17, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DataCrusade1999 The economist frequently uses esoteric spellings of foreign words for some reason. I remember in a recent issue they also had a really odd spelling of Hezbollah.
- Gamerwierdo100 (talk) 13:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Why is his birth name (Benzion Mileikowsky) not mentioned in the article?
IAmBecomeDeath (talk) 20:25, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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Under the "personal life" >> "family and background" section of this page, there is an unrelated quote (Regarding the Palestinian people, he stated: "That they won't be able to face [anymore] the war with us, which will include withholding food from Arab cities, preventing education, terminating electrical power and more. They won't be able to exist, and they will run away from here. But it all depends on the war, and whether we will win the battles with them."). While this may be a true quote, it is not "family and background" or "personal life" and therefore this is in the incorrect section. Lonesomecowboybill (talk) 08:19, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. This quote was misplaced on purpose as a propaganda. This quote should be placed somewhere in the "Political positions" section. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:A027:6AAA:59C8:CCF6 (talk) 11:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- This isn't a quote from Benjamin Netanyahu but from Benzion Netanyahu. I'm not sure if it's relevant to this article, given it's his father's position and not his own, but the quote wasn't actually in that original source (Although it is mentioned in one source, 972 Magazine, which I've since tacked on). Plutonical (Talk) 11:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Done Bowler the Carmine | talk 22:55, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
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Netanyahu has now been prime minister of Israel for 17 years. 194.230.146.217 (talk) 06:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Counting day by day is original synthesis. No source says that he has been prime minister of Israel for 17 years. I think we should delete the number of years altogether. The fact that he's the longest serving prime minister in Israel's history is good enough. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:A027:6AAA:59C8:CCF6 (talk) 11:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done Being able to count is technically not considered original research by policy, though AP ("After tumbling in polls, Netanyahu clings to power and aims to improve political standing during war". 2024-01-03. Retrieved 2024-10-16.) and Forward (Kornbluh, Jacob (2024-01-04). "Analysis: Caught by surprise on Oct. 7, Netanyahu looks to preserve his power post-war". Retrieved 2024-10-16.) both mention it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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"At MIT, Netanyahu studied a double-load while simultaneously taking courses at Harvard University, completing a master's degree in two and a half years" -> change to -> "At MIT, Netanyahu studied a double-load while simultaneously taking courses at Harvard University, completing a bachelor's degree in two and a half years."
Rationale: quote from the source, "When he showed he could handle the work, Mr. Netanyahu was permitted to continue with the double-load, enabling him-despite the break for war duty-to obtain the SB in architecture (art and design) in 2 and 1/2 years, in February 1975." SB stands for bachelor of science in Latin. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:A027:6AAA:59C8:CCF6 (talk) 11:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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59.153.17.118 (talk) 20:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)53269
Not done: Blank request. PianoDan (talk) 21:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Succession infobox
[edit]The Leader of the Opposition can not be him, he is now the PM. Why have anyone missed this for years? 61.245.11.97 (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
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In 1976, Netanyahu graduated near the top of his class at the MIT Sloan School of Management.[1] -> replace this source with this source (2, source 46 in the article).
Rationale: source 1 does not have the cited information. Source 2 does. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:BDFD:4CD3:6B69:33F1 (talk) 07:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Removed instead. Source 2 does not confirm graduation or marks, but source 1 is ambiguous on what and where. Sentence is partially redundant anyway. Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:04, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Alpha3031 a quote from source 2: "Without breaking stride, Mr. Netanyahu, known to his friends as Bibi, went on to his studies at the Sloan School, co-authoring a nearly 100-page thesis and earning the SM in management in May, 1976." SM is Master of Science in Latin. "Near the top of his class" is unsourced. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:712D:9586:53F9:76BC (talk) 04:56, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
- I added this source and another source.Rainsage (talk) 02:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- Alpha3031 a quote from source 2: "Without breaking stride, Mr. Netanyahu, known to his friends as Bibi, went on to his studies at the Sloan School, co-authoring a nearly 100-page thesis and earning the SM in management in May, 1976." SM is Master of Science in Latin. "Near the top of his class" is unsourced. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:712D:9586:53F9:76BC (talk) 04:56, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Barbaro, Michael (7 April 2012). "A Friendship Dating From 1976 Resonates in 2012". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 15 June 2013. Retrieved 7 April 2012.
Birthplace and country of Origin missing
[edit]Birthplace and country of Origin missing 2406:7400:50:394:A939:CBB7:19C1:66D8 (talk) 19:01, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- This info is in the article already. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 17:37, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Spelling error
[edit]Under Personal Life/Health, when mentioning Herman Berkovits, please change “pediatricist” to “pediatrist” Cbe46 (talk) 10:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Done -OXYLYPSE (talk) 17:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
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Benjamin Netanyahu's birth name is Benjamin Mileikowsky. This should be stated clearly in the introduction. Not once in the article is their any reference to his original name. 82.1.108.5 (talk) 12:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done. You'll need to provide a source for the claim that "Netanyahu's birth name is Benjamin Mileikowsky." IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 17:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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In the Hamas and Hezbollah section, the sentence "In 2000, families of American victims of the attacks filed a lawsuit against Tlass, Kanaan and iranian Minister of Intelliigence Ali Fallahian" has two typos. "iranian" should be "Iranian" and "Intelliigence" should be "Intelligence". There are also three bare URL references after this sentence, which should likely be fixed to avoid Wikipedia:Link rot.
Thanks. Tolozen (talk) 08:35, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]According to my research, Netanyahu has received the following awards in his life.
Order of Ze'ev Jabotinsky (1980 )Jabotinsky Medal#Jabotinsky Order of Israel awards
Irving Kristol Award ( 2015 ) [1]https://www.aei.org/special-features/2015-annual-dinner/ [1]https://www.c-span.org/video/?400411-1/irving-kristol-award-ceremony
Order of the Southern Cross (2019) [2]https://web.archive.org/web/20181229171320/https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Netanyahu-in-Brazil-Forming-an-alliance-with-a-superpower-575708
Hudson's Herman Kahn Award (2016) [3]https://www.hudson.org/events/1371-benjamin-netanyahu-receives-hudson-s-herman-kahn-award92016
Netanyahu also wrote a book titled "A Place Under the Sun : The Struggle of the People of Israel for Independence, Security and Peace, Yedioth Ahronoth Publishing , 1995" [4]https://www.livre-rare-book.com/book/30016025/alb9883c90addec58a1 <--- this should be added to the bibliography section, as such. 198.105.46.237 (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
So …
[edit]https://www.reuters.com/world/icc-issues-arrest-warrants-israels-netanyahu-gallant-hamas-leader-2024-11-21/ Wiedzosław (talk) 13:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, this seems very serious. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 14:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- The notablity should be add to first line of WP:LEAD as he is unique in Israeli history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hausa warrior (talk • contribs) 16:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done The thing would be added to the first line, for multiple reason, the most simple is that there it is reserved for other things fundamental to (describing) the subject. If that's what you meant in the first place.ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 17:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- The notablity should be add to first line of WP:LEAD as he is unique in Israeli history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hausa warrior (talk • contribs) 16:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Should his criminal status be added?
[edit]Should we add the criminal_charges parameter to his infobox? An example is provided in "Blank template with all parameters" at this webpage.Gamerwierdo100 (talk) 04:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- While it certainly seems reasonable to include it in the body of the article, for some reason or another, the longstanding documentation at the person infobox is to include it "for convicted criminals only". There should be some consensus-driven amendment of this convention as opposed to overriding it singularly at this article. Chetsford (talk) 08:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe it should be added to the lead that "he is the first Israeli head of government for whom an arrest warrant has been issued" or with some other wording. Spclmnt (talk) 12:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Spclmnt I think this is not really notable enough, take a look at WP:LEAD
- Gamerwierdo100 (talk) 17:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- My opinion is that Gaza genocide has been and will be one of the foremost defining aspects of Netanyahu's biography, so it might be notable. Spclmnt (talk) 17:38, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Spclmnt If he is convicted the beginning could be likely changed to "Benjamin Netanyahu (born _____) is an Israeli politician, and convicted war criminal..." Gamerwierdo100 (talk) 17:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- My opinion is that Gaza genocide has been and will be one of the foremost defining aspects of Netanyahu's biography, so it might be notable. Spclmnt (talk) 17:38, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chetsford I was seeing that precedent being for infobox criminal, is it for the criminal parameter withing a standard person infobox too?
- Gamerwierdo100 (talk) 17:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe it should be added to the lead that "he is the first Israeli head of government for whom an arrest warrant has been issued" or with some other wording. Spclmnt (talk) 12:09, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Request for Bibliography and Awards section
[edit]According to my research, Netanyahu has received the following awards in his life.
Order of Ze'ev Jabotinsky ( 1980 ) Jabotinsky Medal#Jabotinsky Order of Israel awards
Irving Kristol Award ( 2015 ) [1]https://www.aei.org/special-features/2015-annual-dinner/
Order of the Southern Cross (2019) [2]https://web.archive.org/web/20181229171320/https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Netanyahu-in-Brazil-Forming-an-alliance-with-a-superpower-575708
Hudson's Herman Kahn Award (2016) [3]https://www.hudson.org/events/1371-benjamin-netanyahu-receives-hudson-s-herman-kahn-award92016
Netanyahu also wrote a book titled "A Place Under the Sun : The Struggle of the People of Israel for Independence, Security and Peace, Yedioth Ahronoth Publishing , 1995" [4]https://www.livre-rare-book.com/book/30016025/alb9883c90addec58a1. <--- this should be added to the bibliography section, as such
This should be written in the NPOV format. 198.105.46.252 (talk) 01:46, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
adding information on the arrest warrant against him
[edit]- The International Criminal Court issues arrest warrants for Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former Israeli defense minister Yoav Gallant (pictured), and Hamas leader Mohammed Deif in its investigation of war crimes in Palestine.
Ola.mahadi (talk) 12:43, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- some should probably add the current list of countries that would comply with the orders BarakHussan (talk) 20:36, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
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In November of 2024, the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu, designating him a war criminal. Asmahene (talk) 16:10, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The 🏎 Corvette 🏍 ZR1(The Garage) 02:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
His October 2015 comments on the Holocaust
[edit]At Benjamin_Netanyahu#Fourth_term, there is a paragraph on this. There is a discussion at Talk:Holocaust_denial#Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_2_December_2024 if this issue should be mentioned in the Holocaust denial article. If you have an opinion, please comment there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:46, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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